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无尽

The Endless,永无止境,永劫(台)

主演:考莉·埃尔南德斯,詹姆斯·乔丹,塔特·艾灵顿,贾斯汀·本森,卢·坦普尔,艾米莉·蒙塔盖,艾伦·穆尔黑德,彼得·奇莱拉,David Clarke Lawson Jr.

类型:电影地区:美国语言:英语年份:2017

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《无尽》长篇影评

 1 ) 还是不记得为好

⭐⭐⭐哥哥Justin和弟弟Aaron是一对穷困潦倒的孤儿兄弟,没有朋友,没有稳定的工作,仅仅是“能活”的状态。

弟弟总是念叨,n年前和哥哥在营地的快乐日子,衣食无忧,还有对自己很好的哥哥姐姐们,大家在那儿过着与世隔绝的日子。

除此之外,他们似乎总想对这对哥弟洗脑——留在这儿。

多年前他们逃离了这个营地,他们这一群人总在说什么“仪式”,哥哥总感觉这里像是一个温水煮青蛙一般的xie教基地,但是逃出那里,他们面对的也是日复一日的一贫如洗,过着只能靠救济过活的苦日子。

弟弟觉得就算是xie教,也好过不断贫困,所以在弟弟的请求下,哥哥答应他再去营地待几天。

他们驱车前往,翻过了一路上景色都大差不差的荒凉山丘,来到了熟悉的营地。

大家热情地欢迎了兄弟俩,十年来,营地里的其他人竟然容颜依旧,大家每天做的事情就是满足自己的精神世界,做类似于看起来很有让人摸不到头脑的“文学仪式”。

一切的一切,都看起来像个让人洗脑麻木的组织,可是待了一天、两天...他们确实没做什么让人不好的事情,只是一直有一个秘密不愿说明。

弟弟觉得非常想永远呆下去,哥哥出于警觉,强力反对,甚至和营地的人起了口角。

后来,兄弟俩自己去寻找答案了。

找到答案后,他们最终逃出了这里,两兄弟也对曾经的分歧释然了。

整个电影的氛围是压抑的,兄弟二人的迷惑也是观众的迷惑。

渗人的bgm让人看了背心发凉,总觉得有什么可怕的人会突然出现,这样的压抑情绪随着弟弟发现有个人被困在了仅为5秒的循环时达到顶峰。

原来,这整个山丘有一个个或小或大的“结界”,里面是被无端命运选中的人。

结界里面的时间是无限循环的,有长有短,几秒到几天、几周、几个月、几年……看似获得永生,实际是遭受循环往复的痛苦,逃不出的循环,永无止尽的人生,逃不过命运的掌控,选择自我了结,可是紧随自我了结的,是同样的重复命运。

我还有最后一点小疑问,被困住的人记忆到底是不是连续的呢?

在下一个循环他们到底能记住多少之前的事情呢?

有些人似乎记得,有些人似乎又不记得,但是不记得的话怎么知道自己在循环呢?

不过记不记得其实也不重要了,更发人深省的是,是否宁愿不记得,反而没那么痛苦呢?

这让我想到多年前看的《凉宫春日的忧郁》,在漫长的夏日中,长门有希是唯一记得这些循环的人,她平静地说出“循环了xx万次,其中xx万次中去了…xx万次去了…”,这样的孤独该去如何说明呢?

还是不记得为好。

 2 ) 结局应该是没出来

关于结局主角是否出了循环圈 大佬们都各种分析为何出来 或者 为何没出来 我就简单说一下 最后逃如果出来了 为何不直接以一段在高速公路上扬长而去的远景结束 或者其他的拍摄手法 至少没必要误导观众对于结局的解读 可以看出这至少不是一个开放性的结局 就像盗梦空间最后的陀螺 它倒了!

导演给出了特写 必定有其含义 并不是随你怎么理解的意思 本片最后一段关于汽油的对白 加上远处飞来的群鸟特写 怎么看都是为了告诉我们 他们还在循环圈里面 并没有出圈 7.8分 挺好看

 3 ) 豆瓣里面对电影的评论都不能很好的解释所有问题

看了好多影评和解释,让我注意到很多细节,也给了我很多解释,但是所有解释感觉都有疑点,主要分三个:1,一个轮回为啥有些有些不重置记忆,但有些似乎又会重置;2,两兄弟来之前是否已经处于轮回;3,两兄弟是否最终进入轮回。

下面将对问题一个一个回答:1、一个轮回为啥有些有些不重置记忆,但有些似乎又会重置?

这个问题可以用大轮回和小轮回来解释,大的轮回是会重置记忆的,小的轮回则不会。

比如上吊男的小轮回是数小时,但是大轮回则大于10年,至少他保留了10年前兄弟两离开时的记忆。

而自焚男的大轮回则只有数周,所以他说他来这里只有几周,而实际已经很久很久了(具体电影也没有交代,但绝对不是几周那么短),自焚男的小轮回则只有几天。

当然,大轮回也和小轮回一样,每个人的大小轮回都是独立存在的。

所以这基本可以解释了记忆的问题。

2、兄弟两来之前是否已经进入轮回?

我觉得是否定的,为什么这么说?

最大的问题就是他们的圈有这么大吗?

能把城市里面的人都装进去,而在这个圈里的城市里面的人却不受影响(从电影看,每个圈里圈外的景色是不同的,就算城市里面的人不受兄弟的圈而轮回,那那么多人肯定会在这个圈子里面进进出出,难道发现不了一点景色异常)。

有评论说兄弟在城市的镜头没什么路人,实际上路人是存在的,并且还不少,不过由于对主线没什么影响,所以基本没有特写。

3、兄弟两最终是否进入轮回?

我觉得是进入了,大轮回不清楚时间,小轮回的时间应该很短,可能就1小时甚至更短,轮回的开始和结束应该都在开车。

片子结尾那段话似乎是兄弟两刚逃出的对话,但是再看一次其实不是,中间切换了组织里面的人的画面。

所以结尾的对话应该是车子开了一段时间后的对话,车子没油都能开这么久,所以兄弟两发现他们已经进入轮回了。

至于为啥凭风景兄弟俩看不出来他们进入轮回了?

我觉得可能的原因是这里的风景其实差不多吧。

所以兄弟俩的轮回应该就是不停的开车,不过这样的轮回对于汽车爱好者应该是不错的结果吧。

 4 ) 兄弟俩是否逃出去?一张图说明一切

影片开始不久8分07秒,弟弟躺在草坪上仰望的“天空”,兄弟俩一直以来所谓的现实都在“神” 的范围中···但是与其把这个帽子扣给克苏鲁,不如扣给外星人···除此之外我还有两个疑问,1.为啥没有人想过要把结界的棍子拔出来(他们的思想被控制了?

),但是假如能拔掉棍子,是不是就能打破结界?

2.有一段对兄弟两人的采访,画外的声音是个女性,她是谁?

她是不是一直在收集这些信息?

为什么要刻意给这样一段采访?

有可能是下一部的伏笔吧。

 5 ) 无尽之外还是无尽(7分)

总的来说就是一个人生总是在无限循环的故事。

当然,这里面存在着无数个循环的圈,有的人循环时间短(比如那个只有10S无限撞墙的老人),有的循环时间很长(比如组织里十年循环的成员)。

不同循环圈之间并不相交,所以圈内的服装设计师看不见圈外的弟弟。

而哥哥在找弟弟的时候,弟弟也是凭空出现的,包括突然出现的房车。

但这里面有几个有问题的地方是,部分人的存在似乎有着明显的问题。

比如在仓库上吊的男人,他和他的尸体是存在在同一空间和时间里的。

那么跟据那个被锁住的吸毒男和他的朋友MIke在纵火自焚后,时间重启的情况来说,这一点是相悖的。

另外,根据剧情来说,所有人都是知道时间循环以及无法打破的情况的。

所以他们应当是保有相当一部分此前记忆的。

那么比如当弟弟离开时候,服装设计师会对着弟弟离开的方向挥手,包括酿酒师会对弟弟说:“Don't do it if you don't want to.”似乎都是说明了他们都是希望Justin和弟弟能够逃出这样的循环的。

但是从结尾处来看,Justin和弟弟似乎只是陷在一个更大的循环里。

这个循环应该包括了他们从小时候起的记忆。

从整部电影看来,提及到儿时记忆的只有兄弟俩,其他循环中的人都没有说到过小时候的事。

他们对于兄弟二人的记忆都是停留在小的时候。

那么小时候的兄弟俩是为什么没有陷入这个圈的循环,以及他们是如何逃出这个循环的,他们回来之后又逃走如果是依旧处在循环内的话,为什么他们对此并没有记忆,这些影片似乎有点无法逻辑上的自洽。

当然结局很明显的看出哥哥和弟弟确实没有逃出循环,只是他们应当是身处在一个更大的循环,并且能在多个循环内活动。

总之这部电影的循环链上存在相当程度无法自圆的逻辑问题。

但是其中的不可名状,时间空间的概念,不失为一部好看的克苏鲁风格的影片。

 6 ) 几乎所有的影评都是错的,导演亲口说结局是“乐观的”——兄弟俩逃脱了循环

https://collider.com/the-endless-explained-interview/一个很长的对于兄弟俩导演的采访。

导演说了很多,其中有两个事情给出了明确答复:1. 结局是“乐观的”。

2. 最后兄弟俩驾车冲出loop的时候和镜面相撞,这件事和他们年幼时候遭遇的车祸不是一个事情。

那么影片最后的关于汽车没油了的对话,便可以理解为,车子确实快要没油了,只是因为汽车会给你一个冗余量而已(让你尽早加油)。

而哥哥那句“You figured it out”只是为了表现哥哥再也不强求弟弟了。

(这么多年来哥哥对弟弟都是非常强势的,影片中多次体现。

)所以其实结局是两重欢喜。

第一重,他们逃离了循环;第二重,兄弟俩不再是命令和屈服的关系。

尤其是第二点,导演也有在采访中暗示。

大家都想多了。

但目前已有的影评中,确实有很多看似有道理的分析,但都被导演简单粗暴的定性答复否决了。

这样看来这部电影其实逻辑性并不明确,你也可以说有bug。

 7 ) 导演/编剧对电影的一些解释&阐述结尾

没时间读完的朋友,简单总结就是导演说了,结尾是happy ending,不是loop,兄弟俩逃出生天。

http://collider.com/the-endless-explained-interview/‘The Endless’ Filmmakers on Their Trippy Mythology & Deciphering That EndingThis week, Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead‘s The Endless rolls out on Blu-ray and digital, which means that folks nationwide are going to be unravelling the headtrip horrors of the film’s unnerving, mysterious Lovecraftian mythology and looking for some answers.Earlier this month, I published the first part of my conversationwith the filmmaking duo, which spanned from the duo’s early ideas for expanding the universe they built in their first film, Resolution, to the experience of taking the finished versionThe Endless around the world. And now that the movie has hit more theaters, it seems like a good time to serve up the spoilery portion of the interview, which dives into what to make of the film’s mysterious mythology and ending.If you need a refresher, The Endless follows Benson and Moorhead as Justin and Aaron (yes, they’re using their real names, but no, they’re no playing themselves), a pair of bickering brothers always at odds who return to the UFO death cult they escaped as kids in search of answers. Except when they get there, they don’t find a UFO death cult at all, but a happy and healthy, if admittedly weird and unsettling, commune of people living life on their own terms. They also find something more sinister lurking in the hillsides of the remote camp — an unseen, oppressive presence that communicates through voyeuristic photographs and video clips, trapping people in time-loop prisons where it manipulates and torments them into various horrific fates for its own amusement. A frontiersman trapped in a loop of mere seconds, a man who has to kill himself every few minutes to prevent a worse fate, and the local cult, who have it relatively easy by comparison — living out a decently long three-moon loop that ends with their “ascension,” aka being shredded into bloody bits. Yikes. At least they don’t have to worry about aging.

Image via Well Go USAAnd of course, there’s the return of Mike (Peter Ciella) and Chris (Vinny Curran) from Resolution,who are trapped in the bitter week-long loop of forced sobriety and failing friendship detailed in the 2002 film. The unseen evil in The Endless is the same chilling cosmic threat we met in Resolution, and the films share more crossovers thanyou’d probably imagine on a first watch, so you’re looking for more answers on The Endless, a rewatch of Resolution is the perfect place to start. Or first watch if you caught The Endless first, which works just as well.However, if you’re looking for an easy play-by-play explanation of what goes down in the film, you’re not going to get it from Benson and Moorhead, who insist everything you need to solve the puzzles of their unconventional cinematic universe can be found right there on screen. However, the duo was more than happy to dive into the ideation behind the film’s mythology and the mindset behind ending it the way they did, so check out the interview below for a discussion of the different ways their “monster” is revealed through the characters and settings in the film, the ideas that helped inspire the unseen menace, and why the ending is more about character payoff than answering specific questions.I know you guys have said you have this whole mythology totally down from top to tail. Was that something that you had already achieved at the time ofResolutionor did that come later?JUSTIN BENSON: It’s definitely expanded.AARON MOORHEAD: The rules didn’t change.BENSON: But like withResolutionthere were … In both of these movies, there have been massive documents of things that people never see. And it’s really cool because we’re pretty sure people feel these things in the movie. The things that are into that. But like in the case ofResolution, for example. The unseen antagonist ofResolution, which is the same unseen antagonist inThe Endless, obviously. Except inResolution, the point of view of the whole film is from the unseen antagonist. There was like a massive document that went into everything about that “monster” that went to our sound designer to help them design the sound of the whole film. So that existed duringResolutionand there are things in that document that ended up more conspicuous inThe Endlessthan expanded upon. That’s just like one example of one thing.When it comes to how nailed down the mythology is… Whenthe camera pulls back on that canyon and you see all those bubbles, the time prisons, would you be able to look at that shot and say exactly what’s happening in each one of them?

Image via Well Go USAMOORHEAD: I can tell you how long those loops are, when they reset, and all of that. That exact area, we know it pretty well. And that’s desert, so there’s a whole bunch of poor animals. It’s probably something like that, but I wouldn’t say that we have an entire map of the world and who’s in it. But it wouldn’t be hard to theorize. We definitely have enough. So it would be pretty easy to take a good gander. And then, the little sequence that — the music trimmings for the montage that follows Justin and Aaron walking past the big totem and it’s in the sort of monolith carved monster looking thing.BENSON: The rusty dragon sculpture.MOORHEAD: And the rusty dragon sculpture. So those would all be individual loops that have developed their own sub-cultures and have their own interpretation of what this unseen antagonist is. Depending on how they saw it, the state of mind they’re in, and their own personalities, and all of that. And that these things they’ve created are artistic representations of how they see the antagonist. Whether they’re going specifically through the loop you see in the distance, because they do walk off, that we don’t know. And luckily, we only shot in 4K so you can’t really punch in. [Laughs]BENSON: And what’s funny is … it’s weird how important that sequence was to us because in the movie we basically, the oldest loop that you ever see is what, 1800 something? Some kind of frontiersman like in a tent, but we have a non-existent Easter Island type subculture that developed its own kind of mythology around it. Clearly. And of course, Native Americans with the totem pole. But even the monolith to us — which is kind of the big image of the film anyways — to us. it’s supposed to scare the hell out of you when you realize that’s what that is. When you realize that, that’s the antagonist of the film as seen by people that are so ancient they’re gone in America.In a similar vein, along with those monoliths I loved the ways we see this presence interpreted through the eyes of the characters in the film, like Lizzie’s art and Hal’s equation. What was your process of creating all these different understandings of this one being?MOORHEAD: I mean, that’s something that did start with Resolution but it’s so small. It’s so small. It’s like literally there’s a journal running during the credits sequence of Resolution. It’s a bunch of monster sketches, and that would have been what the French researchers in Resolution were seeing it as. So that goes way back. I don’t even remember anymore what the inspiration for that was. Besides the fact that, unless you can get Giger, the guy who did Alien, unless you have a designer on that level to build a monster … We’re just trying to figure out ways that we can present it visually when we need to at least hint at something and not just show nothing, always. And in this case, we get to show it through sketches, and through sculptures, and things like that.

Image via Well Go USAIn the case of Spring, we showed a monster because the premise alluded to nature as being our designer. And since we don’t have our own Giger, we come up with these, hopefully interesting, clever ways to show an otherworldly being or “monster” and it won’t be really uneventful.I mean if you wanted to pour a glass of wine, on a dark night and think about it. There’s this idea of every civilization has developed an idea of a deity and a God. And their interpretation of it has trickled down into our religions today. Or died out. But in the same way, their visualizations of it have looked so wildly different. And a lot of the time there’s the idea that … There’s two ideas. One is, what if it’s the same thing? What if they’re all the same thing? Of course, unified religion theory, which is kind of an idea that we play with. But we’re merging it with the idea of, what if wasn’t God? What if it was just a monster? Or what if people with porphyria were seen as vampires? You know, that kind of an idea where it’s like, “Oh, there’s nothing metaphysical about it.” Obviously, our movie’s metaphysical. But what if it was a natural phenomenon that people just tried to interpret as a god. And that’s a lot of what we’re talking about with this; they saw it as God and it’s actually just this thing.BENSON: And as you saying that, I just remembered where it comes from. It comes from … This is a deep cut. There’s a guy named John Keel, who’s the guy who wrote The Mothman Prophecies. The book is very different from the movie. It’s not a fictional narrative. It’s sort of a journalist’s account of what happened in an area over a period of time. He wrote a whole collection of other books. The one that I’ve read is Our Haunted Planet and what it’s basically about is this concept of ultra-terrestrials.I’m not saying it is an ultra-terrestrial in this movie, but the idea is that throughout human history whenever human beings saw something and interpreted it as being like, “Oh, I saw something. That was an angel from the bible.” Or, “That was a demon.” Or, “That was an extraterrestrial being.” “That was the Men in Black.” “That was the Mothman.” Whatever. That it’s actually always the same thing. In his case, he was arguing that it was this thing called an ultraterrestrial. That just basically, something that had been here among us, always manipulating the situation and everyone just seeing it differently depending on their culture. So it’s vaguely where the idea comes from. If you could imagine, there are so many species that we haven’t yet cataloged in the Amazon. Things like that. Imagine if there’s like an enormous blind spot that we just completely missed; one really big thing. Again, that’s not what’s in The Endless but it’s that idea.

I do have one very specific question. Are we meant to interpret at the end where we see the image of two cars coming into a collision, that it has anything to do with the car crash that put them there in the first place?MOORHEAD: No.That’s an interesting one where we realized that was an unintentional thing. About 10% percent of people, they’ll kind of have that question of like, “Do they?”When I watch Resolution andThe Endless back to back, something I had not picked up the first time was, they seem almost opposite ending moments. Resolution ends on a feeling of helplessness and being trapped and The Endless is all about breaking free. Was that intentionally designed for those two endings to be on opposite ends of the emotional spectrum?MOORHEAD: Oh, that’s funny. I’m going to give you a yes and no. I think afterSpring, we got addicted to optimistic endings. I think we realized that we are just optimistic people and saying like, “You’re fucked no matter what” is just not our feeling about the way that life is, or at least the message that we want to put out into the world. And also, frankly, it more comes down to the construct of The Endless where, if you’re talking in really broad terms about the movie. If you’re talking about the fact that it says, “Break out of your cycle or be doomed to repeat history forever.” It seems like we should be showing what it looks like to break out of your cycle. And like, “Does that help you?” I don’t think it’s a moral as much as it’s an exploration of it. Because there are people that do enjoy it inside their cycle. I mean, the cult at the end. And you don’t even feel bad for them. A little bit, but it’s more melancholy. It’s like, “Oh. They kind of enjoy it there.” But I think that it would have been untruthful for ourselves if we’d ended it as dark as Resolution had ended.BENSON: Yeah. It just seemed like we know, yes there is a very literal answer to the movie. And the answers in the film…It may take a few viewings, but everything’s very literal and all the evidence, if you want to call it that, is there. In terms of, where’s the movie ending in the sense of the supernatural, and otherworldly, and the sci-fi aspects, and all that.But the thing that’s definite, that’s there, that was the most important to us, was just that you’d see that there was a transformation in the interpersonal relationship between these two brothers. And that you’d see that transformation in just a really understated gesture. And that the emotional satisfaction should come from that. I think anything else beyond that, we do things stylistically to kind of like poke the mystery part of people’s brains a little bit. One example is that it’s a hard cut going out. Things like that where just like you sit there and you go, “Oh, wait. There’s another piece of the puzzle to figure out.” To think about longer. It’s things like that. But there’s definitely one answer to the sci-fi part of it.MOORHEAD: Actually going back to your questions, I just remembered when you said, “People who have viewed the movie multiple times.” There’s something that’s an interesting thing we’ve realizes. Our movies kind of exist in what people have called a Lynchian sort of universe where just things are a little off and all of that. I hadn’t seen almost any Lynch when that comparison started, but what’s interesting is, all of the answers to the movie are, I promise you, they’re in the movie. They are there. It’s not a dream logic situation. We’re not being deliberately obtuse. We just want to tell a mystery that’s got a lot of depth to it. And we just don’t want to lay it all out on the table but they’re in there. If you think about it long enough and hard enough. And you know, you might have to take a couple of, not leaps of logic but leaps of faith that like, “Okay. That is what they meant.” Something like that. But our movies are meant to be, I guess literal. That might be the word for it. They are meant to be telling a full story.

 8 ) 不知不觉中,我也跟着循环了...................严重剧透

反复看了好几遍后..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................发现每个人看到最后,都会问:那他们到底逃出循环没?

有人觉得出来了,有人觉得没有,然而根据《digitalspy》上含蓄的剧透:“one theory holds that the brothers are unknowingly trapped in a larger loop of their own(两兄弟不知不觉地进入了他们自己的一个大循环中了)” 。

看两兄弟刚出来时的远景。

注意那座山的山口:

之后9秒又给了反光镜里的一个镜头:

不用画圈圈都能看清楚了8?!

恐怖8?!

令人绝望8?!

其实,他们献给妈妈的那张画已经说明结局。

为什么这么多年过去了,当年孩童献给妈妈的那张画还是象新的一样?

应为这个车祸的事发现场周边已经被圈定为一个循环圈了,在这个循环圈里,时间早已被设定静止了。

还有更令人绝望的:1小时31分37秒

看到那重叠往复的镜头没?

首相导演想说的意思大家都已明了,就是人类总是在不停地重复自己错误,没完没了,有时还是故意地不走出循环:营地那群人在寻找的是永恒的平静,这群人其实来自全然不同的年代,叼着烟斗的貌似最古老,画画的女孩是在两兄弟之后才进去的,所以还不到10年,变魔术的仁兄觉得自己活了115年了....但他们全都是自觉自愿甘之如饴。

尤其是数学家,因为解不开一道难题,所以祈祷天地永恒时间静止,可以让他左后通关....至今未果。

而其他圈子里的一些则是心不甘情不愿的,比如帐篷里那十分十分十分古老(可能是南北战争时期的遗老)的愤怒的小鸟。

各圈循环时间的长短也各有不同,帐篷里的好像只有一分钟,帮助朋友解毒的迈克他们就有好几个礼拜,迈克那个爱贴纸条的老婆珍妮的循环应该很短,而兄弟两的时间.....应该是从首次离开营地10年以后开始算的。

神棍帮的时间很是含糊,首先他们自己以月亮的数量计算,看他们把兄弟俩从小孩子拉扯到成年这一点看,感觉他们的时间好像应该超过十年才对。

恐怖的事情是,这些人岁在地理位置上相距很近,但却永远碰不上,比如画画妹子曾和吸毒老有过一段。

但自从进了圈后就在没见面了,而贴条嫂嫂的老公迈克更是咫尺天涯地和她生活在同一山谷里,却无法改变珍妮永远的悲伤寡妇的处境。

行走男想要戒毒男的枪,但如果没有外人帮忙,自己就永远都拿不到。

其实两兄弟自己早就有了自己走不出的循环。

阿龙告状心理医生说贾斯丁总是要做决定,每次总是错的,所以把人生弄到如此糟糕。

那是不是这次决定要走出神棍帮的决定也依然错误巨大呢?

艾伦·穆尔黑德自己给Digital Spy的剧透是:“ But ultimately, we just want to make sure that by the end of the film, you feel like their interpersonal conflict has gone through a change. Because their interpersonal conflict was its own loop, in a weird little way. They kept on making the same mistakes with each other, and Aaron kept on submitting to Justin's will, and Justin kept on closing it. ”。

就是说,虽然老二最终冲自己唯一的家人说了本不愿说的实话,那什么”你的决定从来糟糕“”从没对过“....什么的,但他最终也还是遵循了老哥的错误决定。

他天生就是这样懦弱的个性,必须有个强有力的老大依靠和指引,这也是那东西对他一直是利诱(好吃的啦,大家庭啦,女色啦,还有大麻)而对容易质疑权威的老大就常常加以恐吓(野兽,湖怪,地动山摇,神秘力量代发塔罗牌什么的)。

无论如何,就算在大社会里,”那东西“的力量也依然存在,不然老二又怎会收到那个阻止他去加油的邮包?

这些铺垫让我不禁担心,如果两兄弟最终冲进了自己的循环圈,且是被困在那条无止尽的公路上没完没了地开车那么惨?!

是不是早早从了阿龙要留在营地的意愿还好一点呢?

很多人说这是部烧脑剧而非恐怖片,但我觉得这就是本片革新的境界——烧脑恐怖!

你会想再回头去看一遍不会怕,越看你觉得越明白,而越明白没你才越觉得恐怖。

最恐怖的还是你最后的问题,虽然有证据显示这两兄弟没走出循环,但也依然有迹象显示,如这些被困人好像都是第一次重见两兄弟,两兄弟可以行走于不同的循环就好像应该代表了他们现在还不在里面......等等。

那么这两兄弟到底走出来没?

本片一开头就已致敬美国伟大的H.P. 洛夫克拉夫特了:

连斯蒂芬金都尊其为” 20世纪最伟大的古典恐怖故事作家 “。

这次,贾斯丁本森和艾伦穆尔黑得就决定把这未知玩到比斯蒂芬金的《小丑》都要狠的地步:长什么样:未知;是什么:未知;连什么时候:最后还来个无限循环的不循环的循环,让观众——就说我吧,狠狠烧过好几次脑才惊栗地反应过来..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................天哪!

我也跟着循环了!

 9 ) 关于轮回

1,营地的轮回不是十年一次。

如果十年一次,则片末才是营地众人的第一次死亡,但众人显然意识到自己在轮回中,意识到怪物(我倾向于外星人)的存在,说明他们轮回过了。

而且如果三月齐圆就是轮回周期,兄弟呆了两天就经历了从一月到三月的变化,则营地的轮回周期只是几天而已。

轮回重置后人会“返老还童”,营地众人如果十年轮回一次,则不会如此年轻,证明他们的周期其实很短,导致他们“青春常驻”。

2,兄弟二人也在轮回中。

证据大家说得很多了,比如母亲纪念处前幼时作的画是崭新的,哥哥在路上发现左右的景色是对称的,再看才看到营地的山,说明他们从家来到纪念处都属于一个轮回圈。

片末兄弟驾车冲出营地时迎头撞上结界,结界上也反映出车子,说明轮回圈之间的结界会反映景物。

弟弟与服装女夜观两个月亮,右边的月亮显然也是反映造成。

还有车油始终是空的。

3,进入轮回的人来自不同时代,轮回周期也不同。

帐篷男的着装最古(有说南北战争时期的),他的周期只有五秒。

上吊男是三小时(据豆友说),营地众是几天,其中酿酒男、画画女都是单独入圈的,和其他人不是一波。

兄弟俩应该超过十年。

因为二人冲出结界后只是脱离了营地圈而回到了原来生活了十年的圈。

兄弟二人在生活圈过了十年,从小变大,重返营地又出来后没有“返老还童”,证明他们的周期还没到。

而且兄弟俩的权限应该也最高,他们可以出入所有的轮回圈,而有些人只能困在自己的圈里。

最明显的是上吊男穿过结界又从农房里出来,他无法去戒毒男那里。

领袖男不陪弟弟去车房,因为他没有去那里的权限。

4,寻夫女就是自焚男的妻子,因为她就有贴小纸条的习惯。

画画女有个爱枪的前男友,或许是戒毒男?

磁带是怪物寄给兄弟俩的,注意观察磁带是凭空落在他们家门口的。

这再次证明兄弟俩生活的城市仍在轮回圈里。

轮回众人无论是被怪物杀死还是为了避免痛苦而自杀,都有记忆。

5,兄弟俩的轮回周期未明。

假设他们老死后重启,则是:重回车祸后母亲死亡的时刻,兄弟俩被救入营地,开始困入轮回。

哥哥怀疑营地是邪教,带弟弟逃出,其实是进入了其后生活十年的大轮回。

十年后重回营地,然后再返回大轮回。

此后生活到死,大轮回重启。

其间营地众、上吊男、自焚男、帐篷男等小轮回各依周期重启。

大小轮回之间,好比月绕地30天和地绕日365天一样,组成复合系统。

 10 ) 无死角解析烧脑轮回悬疑片——《无尽》

大家好,我是龙套夏一套。

咱们来说一部属于无限循环题材的悬疑影片《无尽》。

影片讲述两个不得志的兄弟,在得到一盘神秘录像带后,决定回到十年前逃离的“邪教组织”,却在经历一系列毁三观的诡异事件后,发现这个“组织”的真相和他们记忆中的印象大不相同。

因为故事框架比较复杂,所以有关详细剧情的介绍,小编另有视频贴发布,大家可以关注后查阅,本期图文贴只作烧脑解析。

首先,我们需要明白,任何一部电影,尤其是这种玩套路的电影,如有绞尽脑汁怎么想都矛盾的剧情,那它极有可能就是一个bug,但如果这样判断,又会让影片观赏性大打折扣。

再者,影片中的每一个镜头,尤其是独立的特写镜头,都不是没有深意的。

基于此,为了最大限度的使这部影片剧情合理,小编在原有的内容之上进行了脑洞大开的解读。

一、关于影片中几个要素的说明1. 电影里所谓的“怪物”,是一个拥有上帝视角、若隐若现,无形的存在。

你可以简单理解为,是一个可以控制时间与空间,掌握绝对力量的“神”。

2. 凡是有“神棍”的地方,就形成了结界,下文统称为“圈”,你可以理解为,“神棍”就是“神”用来掌控空间的工具。

3. 山谷里有大大小小的圈,每个圈都可以变化范围,也可以重叠。

困在圈里的人走不出去,也看不见圈外的人。

证据:戒毒男和自焚男都认识小屋的上吊男,说明他们之前见过面,之后却被困在不同的圈里,说明圈在变化。

上吊男让哥哥去帮他拿枪,说明他自己出不去。

弟弟走出营地圈外,和服装师面对面却看不见彼此;哥哥在山上寻找弟弟,弟弟突然凭空出现,这两点都说明圈里圈外的人是互相看不见的。

(哥哥弟弟为何可以出圈,下面再说)4. 每个圈都有一个循环重启的时间,在重启之前,如果你没有逃出,就受到了诅咒。

被诅咒之后,你会困在一个特定的圈里,你自己也会有一个自然循环的时间。

这里需要说明的是,不同的圈有不同的重启时间,重启的特征是圈内一切物体重置,但并不是一切都回到原点。

圈的重启时间和你自己的自然循环时间并不是一回事,且每个被诅咒的人,自然循环的时间也不一样。

证据:从哥哥和上吊男的对话中可以发现(不要看中文字幕,要看英文原台词),上吊男说的都是人,而不是圈。

关于圈,他只说了重启之前不逃出就会被困。

所以上吊男的自然循环时间是3个小时, 帐篷里的老大爷,自然循环时间是10秒。

而营地里最长的人,至少已经十年还没有循环结束。

戒毒男和自焚男死后,房子重新出现;哥哥在山顶寻找弟弟时,背后突然出现的房车,都说明这是圈的重启,但与营地的重启时间不同,说明每个圈并不是在同一个时间一起重启。

上吊男每次自杀后并不都是从小屋里出来,说明循环后,不是在原点开始。

5. 不同的圈,拥有不同的时间进度。

证据:哥哥弟弟在外面生活了十年,但回到营地后,魔术师说:“感觉好奇怪,一眨眼你们就长大了。

服装师对弟弟说:“你还记得我吗?

”说明他们二人对于哥哥弟弟所谓十年前的离开感觉就像是刚发生不久的事。

还有哥哥找到戒毒男时,自焚男麦克回来后,也马上认出了他,并说对他宣传的宗教信仰不感兴趣,还说他们被困在这是几个星期之前的事,但是后面的录像带显示,自焚男早在哥哥弟弟十年前还没离开营地的时候就已经来到了这个山谷。

这些都表明,营地里的人和戒毒男、自焚男,与哥哥弟弟的时间进度不同。

而哥哥在山坡突然发现弟弟时,弟弟说找了他一天,但剧情显示并没有很长的时间,那么得出结论,不同的圈有不同的时间轴。

所以,营地里的人并不是不会变老,只是他们的时间进度慢,而哥哥弟弟之所会长大,是因为他们圈里的时间进度快。

6. 营地并不是十年一重启,里面的人也并不是同一个循环时间。

证据:这里又要再次提到上吊男与哥哥的对话,英文原版的意思是营地里循环时间最长的人,已经至少有十年了,并不是说营地的重启时间是十年。

还有一个特写镜头,是酿酒师把自己的酒倒掉了,但是大家都说这种酒是新酿的,很好喝,为何酿酒师会不厌其烦的倒掉?

因为酿酒师可能就是那个自然循环时间最长的人,他对这种酒已经没什么新鲜感,而其他人并不是,这说明营地里的人并不都是同一个循环时间。

(关于记忆留存后面会讲)7. 圈的重启和人的自然循环使新的轮回开始后,记忆并不是完整留存也不是清零,而是被还原到某个特定的时间点,所以每个人留存的记忆都不同。

这个应该是由“神”来控制。

只有人的自杀致使新的循环开始,才会完整的保留之前的记忆。

证据:上文中提到的酿酒师倒酒和上吊男自杀后循环的表现足以证明。

还有戒毒男和自焚男关于每次循环开场白的描述。

很明显自焚男记得每次的开场白并且很厌烦,而戒毒男并不记得,但当他们一起被重置后,却还是说出了那句开场白,这说明圈的重置使记忆也跟着还原。

为什么戒毒男给自焚男说一年前答应要给上吊男一把枪,但自焚男却不记得这件事,这表明,戒毒男和自焚男的循环时间不一样,不管是圈的重启还是他们的自然循环,只有符合上述规律,剧情才会合理。

8. 没有受到诅咒的人,可以正常出入。

证据:营地里的人可以卖酒,他们自然是出不去的,只能是外面没有被诅咒的人进来买。

二、哥哥弟弟是否逃出轮回上述几个要点如果想明白了,那么哥哥弟弟的结局就很好理解了。

他们并没有逃出轮回,或者说他们始终就处于轮回之中。

1. 哥哥弟弟所谓在外的生活,根本没有任何第三人的描写,而且画面很恍惚,给人一种虚幻的感觉。

再就是,一个连泡面都不舍得吃的人,怎么会买酒喝?

而且哪有大白天就在草坪上喝酒的?

注意看,草坪上远处建筑物有一个镜头特写,字母都是反的。

这一切都说他们所谓的真实生活都是假象,是“神”创造的。

2. 哥俩的“生活”很落魄,弟弟说过,“不知为什么生活总是这样,交不到朋友,毫无生机……”因为他们并没有在真实的世界里,一切都在循环,而他们的记忆也总被还原到某个时间节点。

3. 他们的车并没有牌照。

4. 影片开始,哥俩看录像带时,弟弟是记得服装师的,也记得营地的食物多么好吃。

还有去的路上有一个地方,哥哥管它叫“双峰塔”,弟弟也明显记得,但是到了营地之后,却不记得服装师了。

这也说明哥俩处于循环之中,记忆会随着循环回归某一节点。

5. 他们在母亲的纪念地发现小时候一起画的画,照片很新,说明刚刚经历圈的重置,而弟弟却不记得有这么一幅画,也印证了上文提到的关于记忆留存的规律。

6. 哥哥准备再次上路时,左右看了下来去的路,第一个画面是左右道路风景完全对称的,但当他再次转过头时,去的道路却改变了模样,这说明他们已经被诅咒而且就处在一个圈的边界,圈的边界会使两面完全对称。

7. 仔细观察,哥哥弟弟停车纪念母亲时,电线杆在车的右侧,但当他们上路之后,电线杆却跑到了车的左侧。

影片结尾,他们开车冲出圈的边界时,有一条小河是在车的右侧,但他们最开始进入营地的时候,那条小河也是在车的右侧。

冲出边界后,电线杆是在车的右侧,但下一个镜头,电线杆就到了车的左侧。

电线杆和小河的位置始终是像一个圆一样变化,这说明他们从一开始就在轮回之中。

8. 逃出后,哥俩关于加油的对白,弟弟是一个认死理儿,喜欢较真儿的人,但是没有把那句“没有油的话,车根本就发动不起来……”的话说完,此时哥哥说:“你也发现了……”这个对白说明,此时哥俩已经明白,他们并没有逃出轮回。

9. 他们的圈应该是一个很大很大,大到没有边界的圈,而山谷里的几个圈都在他们的大圈之内,所以哥俩可以自由出入不同的圈。

10. 哈尔第一天晚上对哥哥说,“我再次告诉你,已经原谅你……”为什么是再次?

说明他之前说过类似的话,也就说明哥俩之前已经回来过,哈尔记得,营地其他人不记得,哥俩自己也不记得,这都说明他们经历了一次轮回,循环后,记忆还原。

但每个人的记忆点不同。

11. 因为循环后并不是从原点开始(参考上文自杀男),所以哥俩的轮回再次启动后,并不会变回到小孩子。

这是影片中的一些需要弄明白的地方,只有按照这个逻辑,电影剧情才会合理。

当然,这部电影除了这些烧脑的情节,最主要的还是烘托一个主题:无限循环,看似永生,但却是无意义的重复。

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