“Kill him!
Kill him!
”影片一开始就抓住了观众的心,主旨也昭然若揭。
#爱情木马#一看到“特洛伊战争”,很多人就会立刻联想到绝世美女海伦。
但这部影片弱化了美人的作用,让海伦不至于红颜祸水到导致一个国家的灭亡,让海伦变成一个不仅是美丽的而且是善良勇敢的女人。
影片强化了爱情的作用。
帕里斯作为牧羊人,他命运的转折点在角斗场上,他只是为了赢回自己的牛而不顾一切,在此之前他是孤独的,在此之后他与特洛伊国王相认,他的兄长费心积虑地派遣他去斯巴达,兄长的目的也被帕里斯一下子戳穿,但帕里斯还是去了。
作为一个强大国家的王子,没带几个士兵,只有仆人作为随从,乘着一艘小帆船漂洋过海,这也是帕里斯的孤独。
海伦也是孤独的,活泼的天性总是被父亲贬得一文不值,身边的男人都笑吟吟地看着她,但心里不知道荡漾着怎样的坏水。
一个自称国王的流氓绑架了她,却是真正对她好的照顾她的。
在最后,流氓和哥哥一起死在她的眼前,她的身份从高高在上的公主落入了连妓女都不如的境地。
所以帕里斯和海伦的相爱并不在于水中镜里的相见,而是在于那喧闹舞会中的目光对视。
在自己都经历过那么多无可奈何之后再看见对方,更是坚定了对方是自己生活中的力量和希望,是爱的力量让海伦明知自己会为特洛伊带来灾难仍然跳入水中游向帕里斯即将离开的船,是爱的力量让在家里没有任何地位的帕里斯,勇敢站在那么多长老的面前向特洛伊王求情。
#战争木马#这部《新木马屠城记》新就新在也弱化了神的作用,。
三女神争金苹果的环节只是一带而过,起得也只是引出海伦这一人物的作用。
所以战争的爆发不是其他书中所说的万将枯骨只为美人回顾,而是有其必然性和宿命性。
要说海伦是这一战争的导火线,我觉得海伦恐怕承受不起这么重的罪过。
她成了墨涅拉俄斯的妻子之后,过着混沌的生活,被阿伽门农调戏,还被命令去裸体出现在有众多首领的舞会上,取悦他们。
观察到影片开始的宴会上,舞女在众人面前扭着曼妙的舞姿,至少也是衣裤蔽体的,可见她在斯巴达过的是什么生活,她的丈夫更是脓包的令人发指。
这样一个女子不能成为战争爆发的原因,只能是一个小小的借口,按照阿伽门农的性格,即使没有海伦,他联合爱琴海的其他首领还是会找机会攻打特洛伊,而且他们也已经商量好了,只是时间前后的问题。
#命运木马#影片具体展现的不是在神的影响下的特洛伊战争,而是人的发展下的特洛伊战争,更是命中注定的特洛伊战争。
我此处所说的命运,不是神安排的命运,而是每个人的性格和他们的行为交织在一件事中所导向的最终命运似的不可逆转的结局。
命运的齿轮从帕里斯被牧羊人救起就开始转动。
善良爱子的特洛伊夫妇一定会与帕里斯相认,倔强的帕里斯一定明知山有虎偏向虎山行地去斯巴达,任性的海伦一定会跟深爱着的帕里斯走,面对深爱的人帕里斯一定会护她到底,阿伽门农和墨涅拉俄斯一定会不管是为了作为借口的“丈夫的面子”,还是内心深处的贪婪去攻打特洛伊,拥有大国的尊严并想借机打压反动分子特洛伊王一定会直面斯巴达的挑战,所以这场战争始末,都是命运在作祟,一环扣一环。
最后,在这部偏向特洛伊的电影里,导演把希腊人往反角色拍。
阿喀琉斯也被塑造得如恶魔般凶残。
墨涅拉俄斯则像恶魔中的清流一般,不屑于胜之不武,还宽心地放弃心爱的人。
相反的罗马人一个个都正直善良,国王富有同情心且正义感十足,大王子也有义气地为了弟弟而死去,帕里斯友好勇敢深情。
正派反派黑白分明。
虽然电影有不少的BUG,如之前一直不相信卡珊德拉的话,海伦却在后面因为她卡珊德拉的一句话孤身去敌营做交易,而后帕里斯轻易地闯入敌营,轻易地将阿喀琉斯杀死,还轻易在和海伦你侬我侬的时候被阿伽门农杀死,真是让人百思不得其解。
重头戏木马的部分,木马做得很漂亮,失去两子的特洛伊国王因伤心过度蒙蔽了双眼,一下子就中了激将法把木马运入城中的解释也说得通,画面精美,让工人拆了城墙让木马进来这一细节也处理地很好,跟看文字想象的场面很相似。
阿伽门农因为残暴而被克莱特内斯特拉亲手杀死最后善有善报恶有恶报。
从始至终卡珊德拉的预言,无论是剧里的人物还是读者都不愿意相信,但现在看来,她的预言都一一实现了,所以人是该相信还是不该相信?
对命运的探索,人类从古至今都未曾停止过。
Actually, I firstly knew about the well-known myth,Troy,by reading comics when I was young,and that was also the first time I read a western myth with so many heroes.I felt the cruelty of wars and the inequality between human and divinity from the pictures and brief words sideward.To be honest,at that time,it was quite difficult for me to remember those heroes’ names because their names were too long and awkward to read.After I begun to learn English, I acquired that every name of ancient Greek people is of great meaning linked to their parents’ expectation,personal characters,experience or some other things.For example,Helen,the name of the heroine,means light in Greek.Reading their name in English is more smooth.When I can read the literature work of the myth and reflect it more deeply with age.The movie,Helen of Troy,shows us a famous Greek myth,which embraces intense desire,strong request for humanism,and deep love,apart from tragic wars.Though actors may be not able to reprise mythical figures in the movie perfectly because there are unique images of heroes and females in everyone’s heart and the movie don’t reflect the mythy in accordance with the literature completely,the movie reveals themes above excellently.The virtual origin of the war is intense desire.Hera,Athena and Aphrodite were all eager to be judged as the most beautiful goddess,and from my standpoint, the golden apple was the symbol of their desire. To realize their desire,Hera pleased Pairs with wealth, Athena pleased him with victory and glory,while Aphrodite promised the most beautiful woman of the world,Helen,to him.As a shepherd without noble birth,I think it’s normal for Pairs to choose Helen because apart from being accompanied with a beautiful woman to live a happy and simple life,wealth,victory and glory were almost rubbish for a mortal. At that time,compared with three goddesses,Pairs was a simple guy without strong selfish desire,but never could he think of that goddesses’ desire made wreaked havoc of war and his fate and Troy’s fate would experience major turning due to his selection.At beginning,Pairs did not want to bring wars to his motherland and Greek city-states.He was so poor to be condemned as the culprit of the war and Troy’s subjugation.In the movie,the desire of Greek kings that expanded their territory was also the origin of the war--it was unreasonable to launch a war which unified all Greek city-states’ power only for retaking a woman and safeguarding the reputation of Greece.In the movie,when Menelaus was aware that he couldn’t kill his rival,Pairs,on account of the guard of god,so he stopped attack.Then the two men sat down together and had a talk about Helen and the war calmly--their final silence indicated their consensus that the war was actually meaningless and people should have not killed each other.Later Helen’s surrender could not stop the war,which also proved the main purpose of Greek armies was not Helen. As I see it,Pairs was innocent,and it was the desire of gods and kings brought people pain.Like many other western myths,strong request for humanism is also an important topic of the myth. It’s widely believed that the origin of humanism in western world lies in Greek culture.Humanism advocates personal freedom,equality and self value that are strongly expected to get by oppressed people. The myth can be perceived as a Greek condemnation on oppression and the strong request for humanism--people ought to dominate their own fate and their lives shouldn’t be toys of power.From the beginning to the end,gods made great difference.It’s unusual that the movie shows the power of gods indirectly--no god appeared in the battlefield but their power existed.It’s easy to find that people were unable to resist the wish of god and the duels between two heroes were interfered by gods’ power,which led to numerous amazing results.Beside,in my opinion,Princess Cassandra is a crazy,cold and poor figure whose spiritual world was dominated by gods--she clung to oracle that if Paris lives,Troy will be burnt,and she attempted to prevent the oracle coming true by a negative means--kill her brother.What she wanted to do was so cruel and in the meanwhile,her life was obsessed by the oracle,which led her life unhappy and full of scare.To be honest,the act of the actress exaggerates the image of Princess Cassandra,but it can immerse ourselves in ancient Greek’s fear to the gods and their prediction,how god’s power controlled people’s life and people’s strong request for humanism.Last but not least,the element of love will never absent in Greek myths.I find that love is the common nature of human,nymphs as well as gods in Greek myths,and love can’t be eliminated completely by no means.The first scene of the movie was the birth of Paris-- when Paris was born,his elder sister,Princess Cassandra,who had the power to see into the future told her father,the king of Troy,a dire prediction that if the baby boy lives,Troy will be burnt.Thus the king decided to abandon the little baby,at that moment,it was maternal love that prompted the queen of Troy to struggle to rise up to recapture her son,but she failed. Many years later,when the king and the queen realized that the guy on the sand of the colosseum was their abandoned son,they hugged their son and recognized him,forgetting the terrible oracle.The plot of the movie was adopted from the literature and added more details about sincere emotions of human.For example,when Paris limped after a desperate fight against Menelaus,Hector offered to take the place of his injured brother to challenge Agamemnon--this is love between brothers.No matter how cruel the war was,sincere emotions always existed.All in all,war is not the core theme of the myth or the movie.I believe concepts that worth pondering in the myth or the movie are abundant.
A beauty, a hero, and a king, three person’s stories; beauty, courage, and desire, three different emotions. Their intersection is the movie "Helen of troy". Paris in the dark was suddenly coming out of the enemy draw knife stabbed several died on the spot ……Helen was raped by Agamemnon, who could not resist, In the end, back to the starting point - she still followed his husband, whom she did not love ...... the men, who personally killed his daughter for war ritual, Agamemnon, was eventually killed by his wife ...... the surprising plots to shook the people's nerves. If they had known these final results, will they go to still struggle for it? Still to pursue? Will they chooser the same choices. Helen is the beauty, she represents the free of love. Helen is just a weak woman, even though she has a beautiful face. Every woman is eager to be a beauty, but the beauty of Helen brought her a series of disasters, “The beautiful woman suffered a harsh life”. Her beauty becomes the object of desires of many men: she is robbed by Theseus, then his brother robbed her back; her father hated her; the kings got together and decided her vest. Her body was her own, but she is not independence. All of these makes Helen flee. Perhaps it is unforgivable that Helen fled from Greece in the eyes of the Greeks. But as a woman, it is a pursuit of free love. For love, she blows everything. Helen, who is an active life, she knows what she wants, and pursuit of the goal of herself. She proved that women are not just an object of desire for men, she also has the ability to initiate the pursuit of love and happiness. From Helen I also thought of "Yingying biography" the girl Cui Yingying, and" Stone Story "Lin Daiyu."Stone Story "Lin seems to get rid of the tragic fate, the novel pointed to the Lin's identity at the beginning, she is the reincarnations of annatto, Lin struggled for independent personal love and freedom, she suffered extraordinary pains. Lin therefore shed the last drop of for true love. In addition, from Helen's story, I saw the ancient Greeks’ questing for the beauty. As a modern man, I cannot understand, a decade of war, the ultimate goal of war is for a beauty, which no modern man can understand. Perhaps in the eyes of Greeks, The beauty is above anything, beauty is truth. The two sides compete for peerless beauty Helen, countless soldiers went dark for the beauty of sacrifice without regrets. Perhaps because of this, the ancient Greek create the elegant and refined, noble and lively, full of artistic expression full of beautiful statues. Paris is also a hero. He is different from the movie "Troy" that Paris no longer hid in the city, and did not meet the enemy, he is not the cowardly Paris. Although he was not the first warrior of Troy, but he does not intend to surrender to anyone, he fight for his own reputation. The pursuit of honor and dreams and goals of each ancient Greek hero. They process in the pursuit of honor, individuality, self-affirmation, to realize their own values, but also to indulge the desire to sacrifice moral, ethical. War is an important way to get the honor. the release of passion, you can win a lot of trophies, enhanced reputation, the subject of admiration. For example, Achilles would rather die, than want to lead his life comfortably at home. Agamemnon symbolizes the desire, his desire to focus on three areas: the woman - Helen; for wealth, power; against honor. Agamemnon's desire to unite to meet the end of the movie, though, but with the life disappear, he could not really have his income. As a man, he was eager to Helen's beauty; as king, eager to wealth, power; as a great hero, the pursuit of honor. His desire, the more and more damage to others. To his desires, he snubbed his wife, killed her daughter, coerced brother, kill the tens of thousands of people. Sadly with the disappearance of his own lives, Agamemnon cannot really have his income. This is the tragedy of human destiny. Second, the pursuit of wealth and power. As a king, Agamemnon is thirst for power and greed for wealth, which coexists with the growing strength of his ambition. At that time the Greek states, the most powerful Mycenae, Agamemnon is the highest leader of the entire Greek region, he orders the pack, assembled troops. Achilles, Odysseus, Menelaus and so obey him. He wants absolute power, which makes him particularly arrogant men. He also wants to conquer the ocean side of the Trojan people, so that they surrender to him. In the film, his fierce eyes prove arrogant Agamemnon. Any of his decisions are irrefutable. He dreamed to conquer the world. In the film, Agamemnon is the object of many desires, he desire carrier interests, wealth, excuse powers and so on. After decades of war, he was loaded with booty, honor and go, very comfortable lying tub. Then Agamemnon reached the pinnacle of his life. He is successful, peak moment is also low moments, all of his life is together with his disappearance. People admire the ancient Greek heroes, we should also ponder war and humanity. Society needs proper desire, need good human, but definitely do not need
This movie tells us a story rather a piece of history. A story xabout love, desire and fate.Instead of Trojan War, the movie focuses on the most beautiful woman in the world, Helen, and talks about her happiness, sadness, and her love story. This movie basics on the mythology of Trojan War, which remain for 10 years between Troy and Greek. Besides, the director and screenwriters add a lot of imagination of Trojan War into the movie, which makes this movie more attractive and dramatic than the history it is. The myth of Trojan War is about men’s power and strength. In “Helen of Troy”, the principle line is centring on Helen, and this original perspective of Trojan War brings us a new story and gives us another understanding of this myth. Compared with the fight scenes between two countries, the movie uses more parts to narrate the story of Helen. What’s more, it turns Trojan War from a ruthless war story into a moving love story. At the beginning, infant Paris was predicted by his sister that his growth would bring the whole Trojan into death, and he was abandoned by his cruel father. The destiny was unfold before audience. Under the guidance of the goddess Aphrodite, Paris saw Helen from the gold apple, and Helen saw him in the water. Then they could not help but fell in love with each other. Their love were not accepted, because when Paris found Helen, she was wife of the king Sparta, Menelaus. Paris and Helen confront their love and impediments, however, this cause the conflict between Troy and Greek.From this movie, we can see the tragedies of women directly. They did not have any rights to do what they like. They could not choose their loves, and women then were just used as a tool for men’s game of thrones. Such as Helen, she knew herself loved Paris when she saw him first time, but she still had to marry Menelaus. She could not make decision for herself. It is very ridiculous to blame Helen on causing the big war. Cassandra, who predicted the ending of Troy, always said that Helen would bring Troy into disaster. Who caused the war exactly? It were the aggressive men. Helen was just a brave woman who followed heart and chased her love. The emulative dominators would still fight against each other even if Helen did not escape with Paris. Helen was used as a tool or a reason for men’s conquer. Therefore, it was not fair for Helen to undertake the responsibility of Trojan War.There is another question, what is the fate? In Cassandra’s eyes, Paris made Troy burnt, and Helen’s arrival brought Troy unfortunate is the fate. Nevertheless, in my opinion, the fate is that Helen and Paris hit it off right from the start. The fate in this story is love rather than the war.In addition, we can see the greedy and cruel men in that period especially in Greek. Agamamnon and Achilles are described as such hateful men. By contrast, Paris and Menelaus are more kind and lofty. In fact, before I watched “Helen of Troy”, I was more supporting Greek side, because it was Troy who had prior fault, and it was Paris who robbed Menelaus’ wife. However, the charactors in this movie were depicted very vivid, it successfully changed Paris into a brave, kind, and upright boy, and also, Menelaus became a humane person. The background music of this movie is beautiful and graceful, and it sounds like telling a sad story. Especially after Paris was died and Troy was occupied by the Greeks, Paris appeared infront of Helen, which was just the hallucination of Helen. The frames combined with the music makes audiece feel regretful for Helen. Trojan War was a disaster, not only for Troy, but also for Helen.As the movie tells us at last, “War is waged by nations, but it is the human beings that pay the price.” The poor citizens suffered the severe pain, as well as Helen, the poor woman who lost her love, the love which she ever called it “hope”.
特洛伊战争是荷马史诗的第一部,讲述了希腊人如何攻打特洛伊人的整个过程。
在里面诞生了两个史诗级的英雄,阿基琉斯和赫克托。
两个都是我很喜欢的人物。
但我认为在电影的前半段他们只能被称作勇士,在经历了内心重大选择的洗礼后他们才可以被称作真正意义的英雄。
首先,阿基琉斯在神话中是人和神之子,但是电影中没有像神话一样把他形容得像一个不死之身。
他在无敌的同时也是桀骜不驯的,但是拥有巨大力量的阿基琉斯却很迷茫,似乎他的存在只有征服和杀戮,他一直奉行的个人英雄主义背后却是满满的空虚。
而赫克托,是一个好儿子,一个好哥哥,一个好丈夫,他是一个好王子,他为了国家而战,为了所有国民而战,他没有退缩,承担了属于王子的那份责任。
但面对阿基琉斯的对决他也同样动摇过,看着妻子熟睡的侧脸和隆起的小腹,他也渴望自己能够陪伴在家人身边,谁不希望可以好好活着呢?
可悲壮的是他明知自己会输,也勇然为了自己的国家依然选择了一场赴死的战斗其中值得一提的是我被阿基里斯的伟大和深厚的英雄主义色彩震撼到的瞬间,并不是他以一敌百的时刻,也不是他为表弟复仇的怒火。
而是在木马屠城时,他最先想到的是拯救那个心爱的女祭司的生命。
在这时驱动他前进的并不是之前一直奉行的个人荣誉与尊严,而是爱。
也同样是爱带来的恐惧与脆弱,让他暴露了弱点和软肋,并最终为爱而死。
但也正是爱,让他人性的一面烨烨生辉,让那个所向披靡,整个希腊为之颤抖的战神留名万世,让后人都生活在阿基里斯的时代。
我喜欢希腊的勇士,喜欢他们的勇气,喜欢他们最求人的价值。
这是一个伟大的时代,也是一个英雄的时代。
而这部电影,告诉我们真正的英雄主义是可以怀揣着脆弱与恐惧前行的。
没有弱点的是神,而爱与信念才是让我们可以“明知不可为而为之”的第一驱动力。
这部电影挺让我感动的,我并不是一个特别了解特洛伊战争的人,所以这部电影应该是我了解特洛伊战争的开始,后来查了一下资料,好像对帕里斯王子的评价一般,甚至有说他很懦弱,不过这部影片倒是没有体现,可能是将人物进行了一定的美化吧,不过影片中马修演的帕里斯还有西耶娜演的海伦给我留下了很深的印象,我真的觉得他们演得很好,很感人。
这部电影还是蛮不错的,可是为啥让我感觉知名度好像没有那么高呢?
谁能告诉我呢?
我之前为了在网上搜索这部影片看花了好多功夫呢,很多地方都没有这部影片看
这部电影我是大学时候在网吧里看的,但小学时候就在图书馆看过《荷马史诗•伊利亚特》了,这部电影老实说要远远比皮特的《特洛伊》要写实得多。
《新木马屠城记》里的海伦远比《特洛伊》里的要可爱、清纯、唯美,有一种想到保护她的欲望,虽然没有达到完美的境界,但也有85分了。
而里面阿伽门农的表演堪称一代枭雄,有着希腊主人的王者气息,这点和《伊利亚特》里的描述基本上接近。
完全盖了男主角的戏,整个希腊半岛几乎都拜服在阿伽门农的淫威之下,尤其是他的弟弟斯巴达王~那个我们心目中无比强悍的战斗民族斯巴达人的王竟然如此对阿伽门农马首是瞻。
而帕丽斯的故事实际上和《伊利亚特》也是一致的,增加了更多的英雄气概,原著里确实是有他打败特洛伊第一强者~王太子赫克托尔的描述,但电影里他并不是一个小人,而是一个为了真爱敢于冒险的大丈夫,可能西方人没有中国人传统的那种忠贞不渝的概念,所以电影可以这样拍。
战争场面一般,但也看的下去,这部电影里主要是文戏比较精彩,所以战争场面并不是重点,在文戏上,尤其是存在阿伽门农的场景,你都可以感受到这位希腊的霸主的王者气息。
借给看过彼特饰演的特洛伊的好友,觉得还是这个更好些,起码在选角色上让人比较信服。
奥兰多饰演的主人公未免太瘦弱了,而这部的演员,包括海伦在内,都给人无比深刻的印象。
因为有对比,所以觉得还不错,推荐之。
当时买这个版本开始是因为记错了,以为是皮特的版本,后来看的时候才发现不是。
片子比较长,但是看的时候没有觉得时间,因为情节比较紧凑,场面和演技不逊于皮特的Troy。
待到后来去影院看了Troy皮特版,反而觉得不如这个片子了。
故名思意,这是一部关于HELEN的电影,虽然是以TROY战争为时代的背景,但并不是在吟唱战争,所以译名为木马屠城记,于名于实皆不合情理,想必是出于商业之需求,借以屠城二字来吸引国人眼球,看了以后,大家都非常明白,这是一部歌颂爱情的史诗电影.而把他与后来拍的TROY相比,绝对是完全不同,TROY是根据《荷马史诗》中的《伊利昂记》改编,歌颂的是阿各疏斯,这样一个性格暴烈,顽强,勇敢,追求名誉的英雄,他的愤怒对于战争具有转折性的意义,而《HELEN OF TROY》歌颂的是美丽的HELEN,面对的是人性的贪婪、自私、残暴。
远不及 troy
大哥我就是喜欢
商业化剧情其实还不错,就是Helen算是我见过的特洛伊题材的电影里最差的了,五官线条生硬,一股总攻霸道总裁的气场,毫无魅惑
大一下学期
大学视听说课程里看的,很好的一个版本culture:特洛伊
这个海伦真漂亮
比起特洛伊战争好看多了,也更真实
最接近原著的
西方版的《新潘金莲与西门庆》
虽然是感觉山寨了一点,但是剧情方面非常令人surprised;虽然比起《特洛伊》来说是小制作,但是还真有闪光的地方,而《特洛伊》除了肌肉男、打斗和场面外,就基本没有其他东西了。当然,比起《这不是斯巴达》之于《斯巴达三百》来说,还是没有那么经典。
超好看,评价着实有点低
女主角、男主角长得不怎么样嘛~~~失望!故事剧情拖沓,失望!反正看了三分之一,就没再继续看下去了…
这部里面的海伦比布拉德比特演的那部里面的海伦漂亮
Sienna Guillory 漂亮
我说这么美,原来是吉儿。
五年前看过,女王是罗马加巴比伦电影里最漂亮的
比特洛伊好看
没有《特洛伊》好看,女演员也不是那种让人惊艳的
比布拉特皮特那部来得更写实
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